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Armenian
02-13-2006, 06:20 PM
Remembering the First Crusade at Avarayr

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This week the Armenian Apostolic Church will celebrate a long lost battle fought upon a far away battlefield known Avarayr. The celebration of this lost battle may at first glance seem a bit odd to non-Armenians. However, this battle fifteen centuries ago at Avarayr is one of the least recognized, yet profoundly important episodes within the history of Christendom. In 451 A. D. the Armenian nation led by a nobleman named Vardan Mamikonian engaged themselves within the first recorded 'crusade' in the name of preserving nationhood and Christianity. The historic significance and the subsequent ramifications of this event, however, goes beyond its mere uniqueness within the history of Christendom. The profound historic repercussions of this first crusade that unfurled fifteen centuries ago would eventually impact the political events of Asia Minor and indirectly impact the development of western Christendom more than five centuries later.

Christianity was planted within Armenia soon after Christ’s resurrection by the apostles Thaddeus and Bartholomew. By a decree of the Armenian King Trdat in 301 A.D., Armenia became the first state to officially embrace the new faith. By the sixth century, the Armenian Church had evolved into an autonomous national establishment with its very own Patriarch that administered the ecclesiastical affairs of the nation, independent of the universal church at the time at Constantinople. As a consequence of this autonomy, Armenian kingdoms and principalities would find themselves fighting Pagans, Muslims and Christians alike for their very existence, within each and every century thereafter.

With the official establishment of Christianity within Armenia, the close relationship Armenian kingdoms had previously enjoyed with their Zoroastrian cousins in Persia was soon to be severed forever. By the fifth century A. D. political strain and cultural animosity between Armenia and Persia had reached its zenith. This was partly due to the complete eradication of the Parthian dynasty in Persia that had previously administered the empire for centuries, by the surging Sasanian dynasty. Armenian nobility, being partially of Parthian lineage, had thus become the last vestige of that ancient family and naturally looked upon the Sasanians with suspicion.

Due to the strategic location of the Armenian highlands within Asia Minor, Armenian kingdoms and principalities had always been a serious bone-of-contention between superpowers of the time. With Byzantium frantically vying to get control over the strategic heights of the Armenian highlands, Persian Shahs saw the importance of subjugating Armenia politically and culturally. Moreover, the Persian Shahs began considering the emergence of Christianity within their empire as a direct threat to its security, primarily due to fears that its Christian population would side with Christian Byzantium in future conflicts. Thus, the Persian court believed the new faith had to be eradicated from within the empire and its adherents forced back to Zoroastrianism.

Unfortunately, the political strains Armenia was having with her powerful neighbor to the east, coincided at a time when Armenia was in an internal political crisis of her own. As a result of severe infighting amongst Armenian nobility, the Armenian king was dethroned in 428 A.D. Soon thereafter, the nation was partitioned between Persia and Byzantium. The nation’s political stability was further compromised as the ever restless nobility at the time became divided into two political camps, pro-Byzantine and pro-Persian, with both sides vying for absolute power. This political instability within Persian-partitioned Armenia was the encouraging sign the Persians needed in order to intervene.

It was at this pivotal point in history that Vardan Mamikonian entered the pages of Armenian history. Of noble descent, Vardan Mamikonian was the son of Sparapet (Senior Knight/commander-in-chief) Hamazasp Mamikonian of Armenia and was a direct descendent of Saint Gregory the Illuminator. The descendents of the ancient house of the Mamikonians had the hereditary responsibility of administrating the military affairs of the Armenian Kingdom and, thus, was one of the most important and respected offices in the nation.

With the intent of gaining the crucial allegiance of the Mamikonians, the Byzantine Emperor Theodosius II (408-¬450) and the Persian Sassanian Shah Vahram V (421-¬438) had both bestowed the rank of Hazarapet “General” to Vardan Mamikonian. Vardan Mamikonian, being a devout Christian, was ideologically pro-Byzantine and had visited Constantinople on diplomatic missions many times. However, he was also a commander of the large Armenian military contingents within the Persian imperial army, within which he had an impressive service record of many combat engagements and where he had won acclaim in the campaigns against the Huns and other Turkic tribes that had been threatening the empire’s north-eastern frontiers.

Shah Yazdgird II ascended the throne in Persia upon Shah Vahram’s death in 438 A.D. and soon thereafter began having extreme difficulty managing the vast multi-ethnic/multi-faith empire. Being a despotic man by nature, the new Shah began to take drastic and violent measures to consolidate the holdings within his empire. He also began a systematic campaign of imposing Zoroastrianism upon his subject nations in hopes of creating an easily manageable uniform state religion.

In order to persuade the Armenians to re-embrace Zoroastrianism, the Persian Shah attempted to use diplomacy by the way of manipulating the pro-Persian camp in Armenia. However, the Shah’s political efforts soon failed as Armenians steadfastly refused abandoning their Christian faith. With diplomacy having been exhausted, the threat of a Persian military invasion became real. A general riot erupted throughout Armenia in 450 A.D. when the Persian Shah, with the reluctant consent of some bewildered Armenian nobles, sent hundreds of Zoroastrian priests into the nation in order to re-indoctrinate the Christian population.

In the ensuing riots hundreds of Persian nationals and Zoroastrian priests were massacred by unruly Armenian mobs throughout the country. As a reaction to this audacious affront against the empire, a sizable Persian force attempted to enter Armenia from the Caucasus region. This invasion force was quickly and soundly defeated by Vardan Mamikonian who had by then taken charge of the Armenian rebellion. Immediately after the successful military encounter, Vardan Mamikonian, realizing he would not be able to stand up alone to the mighty empire he had struck first, dispatched a delegation to the Byzantine court for help. However, the Vardan Mamikonian delegation was met with bitter disappointment.

Atilla the Hun was threatening Constantinople. The Byzantine emperor, unable to defeat Atilla the Hun in battle, had drained his treasury to purchase peace with the barbarian. As long as the Huns remained a threat at the very gates of the Byzantine capital, no emperor dared irritate the Shah of Persia. It soon became apparent that Armenians had to fend for themselves. By the start of 451 A. D. a full fledged war between Armenia and Persian was now inevitable.

According to contemporary chronicles, on April 13, 451 A.D., a massive Persian force arrived within Armenia at a location between Her and Zarevand (Khoy and Salmast in present-day Iran). The army's center was held by an elite division of 10,000 horsemen known as the "Immortals." Along side them was a herd of armored war elephants, each carrying an iron clad tower within which contained a contingent of bowmen. The rear guard was likewise reinforced by a column of armored war elephants, on one of which sat the commander of the force, Mushkan Nusalavurd, who commended a full view of the entire battlefield, directing force movements.

The Armenian volunteer forces led by Vardan Mamikonian comprised of a much smaller number of cavalry and infantry and was accompanied by a considerable number of the nations nobility and clergy. This force advanced south and upon making visual contact with the Persian force, camped for the evening near the village of Avarayr in the Plain of Shavarshakan (modern Maku, in northwestern Iran). That evening, which was to be the night before their engagement, Vardan Mamikonian made a long emotional appeal to his volunteer force as he pleaded with them to fight and die with honor and to remain faithful to Christ regardless of their plight.

Being under manned, under armed and with no reserves, surely these men that had gathered at Avarayr on that fateful day must have known they would not be able to defeat the massive Persian force. Most fittingly, their selfless determination to maintain autonomy for Armenia and their unwavering commitment to Christ was to become a legend within the annals of Armenian history. Eghishé, a contemporary court chronicler of the Mamikonian family, described the Battle of Avarayr, to which he was an eyewitness:

"One should have seen the turmoil of the great crisis and the immeasurable confusion on both sides, as they clashed with each other in reckless fury. The dull-minded became frenzied; the cowards deserted the fields; the brave dashed forward courageously, and the valiant roared. In a solid mass the great multitude held the river; and the Persian troops, sensing the danger, became restless in their places; but the Armenian cavalry crossed the river and fell upon them with a mighty force. They attacked each other fiercely and many on both sides fell wounded on the field, rolling in agony."

Upon seeing his left flank crumbling before the onslaught of the Persians, Vardan Mamikonian, on his white stead, led a fierce counterattack that cut-off and scattered the Persian right wing, putting them in flight. Mushkan Nusalavurd, however, rallied his troops and committed his vast reserves of which the Armenians had none. Soon Hazarapet Vardan Mamikonian and his comrades were surrounded by the main vanguard of the Persian force and went down fighting.

When the battle finally ended, 1,036 Armenians and 3,544 Persians lay dead in heaps on the battlefield, and scores of others lay wounded. These losses were devastating for the Armenians because among the dead, wounded and captured were the nation’s finest nobility. Despite the heavier Persian casualties, Mushkan Nusalavurd had won the day. Vardan Mamikonian had fallen in battle and his comrades-in-arms taken to the Persian Capital Ctesiphon as prisoners.

Though beaten, however, the Armenian rebellion was far from destroyed. Vahan Mamikonian, son of Vardan Mamikonian’s brother Hmayak, took initiative and led the Armenians in a guerrilla style war that raged within the Armenian highlands for the next 33 years. During that time, the Sasanid Persian dynasty underwent many political changes and also had to deal with external conflicts with Byzantium and a new wave of Turkic barbarians from the east. Eventually, the Persian Shah at the time reassessed the drawn-out and indecisive conflict within Armenia and sued for peace.

Rebellion commander Vahan Mamikonian took advantage of this historic opportunity and sent a delegation to the Persian court with political demands, the primary one being freedom of worship. The Persian Shah accepted Vahan Mamikonian’s terms and in 484 A.D. a peace-treaty was signed in the village of Nvarsak. Subsequently, Vahan Mamikonian was appointed marzpan (military governor) of Armenia by the Persian Shah. This victory of the freedom of worship that Armenians gained through sheer determination and self-sacrifice was the first of its kind in history.

With the martyrdom of Vardan Mamikonian and his comrades-in-Arms, Armenia had regained her national and spiritual autonomy. For his valiant and selfless effort, Vardan Mamikonian was bestowed the title the “Brave” and was sanctified by the Church as a saint. Today, Vardan Mamikonian stands prominently within the vast military pantheon of the Armenian nation. Vardan the Brave is also one of the most important historical figures of Armenia, because in him Armenians see their age old national plight:

A long turbulent history of constant warfare and survival, a perilous history of near annihilation and subsequent revival.

It was through the heroic efforts of gallant men such as Vardan the Brave and many others like him throughout Armenian history that the seeds of nationhood would be planted time and again, through calamity after calamity. The historic significance of the Battle at Avarayr cannot be underestimated. Had the noble endeavor at Avarayr in 451 A.D. failed and Armenia fully reintegrated within the vast Persian Empire, Armenia would not have been able to survive intact as a nation the subsequent tragedies that awaited the region. The embracement and the subsequent stubborn preservation of the Christian faith gave Armenia a unique national character that served as a catalyst for great cultural development and the formulation of a unique national identity that was previously undefined.

Ironically, just two centuries after the battle at Avarayr, in 650 A.D., the vast Persian Empire fell to the inroads of Islam without a fight. With the emergence of Islam within the Near-East Armenian kingdoms and principalities would become an island of Christianity within the sea of Islam. Nevertheless, these warlike Armenian kingdoms and principalities would continue to act as an effective bulwark for western Christendom against the relentless stream of eastern barbarians, until their eventual demise in the fourteenth century due to the treachery of Byzantium and the inescapable circumstances of the region’s long and dark history.

From the first crusade at Avarayr in 451 A.D; to the establishment of the Cilician Armenian Crusader Kingdom within the thirteenth century; to the near annihilation of the nation at the hands of the Turks in the genocide of 1915; to the subsequent revival of the nation in 1991; The sad and bloody history of Armenia can be accurately described as a continuous crusade in the name of Christ. All Christians, regardless of ethnicity, need to be eternally grateful to countless Armenian warriors such as Vardan the Brave who for the first time in recorded history took up the sword for the defense of God and country.

TomServo
02-13-2006, 07:08 PM
Thanks for reminding us.

parthiapride
03-10-2006, 04:18 PM
I'd worship the sun and fire anyday.

Or night.

TomServo
03-10-2006, 04:54 PM
I'd worship the sun and fire anyday.

Or night.
Would you worship my phallus?

skhara
03-10-2006, 05:30 PM
Would you worship my phallus?

What a dirty, dirty, mind.

parthiapride
03-10-2006, 07:49 PM
Would you worship my phallus?

A microbe wouldn't worship your phallus.

Why do you think I would?

TomServo
03-10-2006, 08:14 PM
A microbe wouldn't worship your phallus.

Why do you think I would?
Ooh, that hurts.

I didn't think, I asked. My phallus is saddened by your rejection. :(

Roman Pride!

parthiapride
03-10-2006, 08:18 PM
Ooh, that hurts.

I didn't think, I asked. My phallus is saddened by your rejection. :(

Roman Pride!

So I infer that you're a gay italian male trying to hook up with fellow mediterannean-looking males on an armenian forum?

Well good luck to you anyway.

;)

TomServo
03-10-2006, 08:23 PM
So I infer that you're a gay italian male trying to hook up with fellow mediterannean-looking males on an armenian forum?

Well good luck to you anyway.

;)
No Roberto, mine penis that you hates, is not Italian. They are arminiano. Because of your defective attitude soon I will crush your empire.

parthiapride
03-10-2006, 08:46 PM
Everyone knows that fire-worshipping kicks ass. Especially if you own your own temple...Hint Hint ;)

parthiapride
03-12-2006, 01:45 PM
I also loved it when the crusaders sacked constantinople a couple of times...

Raping, pillaging, plundering...

What wonderful people indeed these Christies...

*yawn*

crusader1492
03-12-2006, 10:40 PM
"I also loved it when the crusaders sacked constantinople a couple of times...

Raping, pillaging, plundering...

What wonderful people indeed these Christies...

*yawn*"

Perhaps this did happen...but it was also 700 years ago.

Here's what the west can expect from Muslims today::wave:

parthiapride
03-12-2006, 10:49 PM
"I also loved it when the crusaders sacked constantinople a couple of times...

Raping, pillaging, plundering...

What wonderful people indeed these Christies...

*yawn*"

Perhaps this did happen...but it was also 700 years ago.

Here's what the west can expect from Muslims today::wave:


Worship the Sun.

Der Sonne.

It works for me.

:)

crusader1492
03-15-2006, 08:18 PM
Worship the Sun.

Der Sonne.

It works for me.

:)

Parthiapride,

What is your agenda here? You posts have very little substance. For example: you write about how awful Christians were 700 years ago, but when I point out the behavior of Moslems TODAY you come back with a glib and pseudo-pretentious comment quoted above. In short, you're an intellectual midget - just like the rest of your ilk.
You should be ashamed of yourself, but that will never happen because people like you incapable of shame. Moreover, you are falsely vain and devoid of introspection.
Another words you are a punk and are unworthy of being here...please piss-off.
:wave:

Armenian
03-15-2006, 10:30 PM
Well said Crusader, and he is not even a real Armenian.

parthiapride
03-17-2006, 05:06 PM
Well said Crusader, and he is not even a real Armenian.


Yes...you're much more hairy, ugly, and bigger nosed.

:D :crying:

:o

parthiapride
03-17-2006, 05:07 PM
Parthiapride,

What is your agenda here? You posts have very little substance. For example: you write about how awful Christians were 700 years ago, but when I point out the behavior of Moslems TODAY you come back with a glib and pseudo-pretentious comment quoted above. In short, you're an intellectual midget - just like the rest of your ilk.
You should be ashamed of yourself, but that will never happen because people like you incapable of shame. Moreover, you are falsely vain and devoid of introspection.
Another words you are a punk and are unworthy of being here...please piss-off.
:wave:


I'm sorry...what is my ilk again?

:confused:

crusader1492
03-17-2006, 05:42 PM
I'm sorry...what is my ilk again?

:confused:

Aren't you a "hellenized Persian" :laugh:

parthiapride
03-17-2006, 10:10 PM
Aren't you a "hellenized Persian" :laugh:

You're right Army brat...so when you gonna invade and colonize me?

:p :laugh: :D :wave:

Btw, might happen soon, as the Iranian oil bourse will be commencing on Monday...can't wait till your shipped off...:laugh: :p :wave: :D

crusader1492
03-18-2006, 11:06 AM
You're right Army brat...so when you gonna invade and colonize me?

:p :laugh: :D :wave:

Btw, might happen soon, as the Iranian oil bourse will be commencing on Monday...can't wait till your shipped off...:laugh: :p :wave: :D

What are you talking about hellenized persian? Stop being so glib. You make no sense.

parthiapride
03-18-2006, 02:15 PM
What are you talking about hellenized persian? Stop being so glib. You make no sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse


Iran is planning to open a commodity exchange, under names variously referred to in English as Iran Petroleum Exchange, International Oil Bourse or Iranian Oil Bourse, for the express purpose of trading oil, petrochemicals and gas in various non-dollar currencies, including euros. The opening date was initially planned for March 20, 2006. If successful, this would establish a euro based pricing mechanism for oil trading, or 'oil marker' as it is called by traders.

Ya ready? Ah rite, ah...........rite!!!

:rolleyes: :D

crusader1492
03-19-2006, 12:10 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse




Ya ready? Ah rite, ah...........rite!!!

:rolleyes: :D

That's more like it hellenized persian...thanks:)

TomServo
03-19-2006, 10:13 AM
Hellenized Persian? This makes him a Farsi phaggot. :D

parthiapride
03-19-2006, 02:59 PM
Hellenized Persian? This makes him a Farsi phaggot. :D


Tsk Tsk...

:rolleyes:

Կարմիր Բ
04-22-2006, 03:22 PM
Spurious

The battle of Avarayr was not a Crusade. Stop stamping ahistorical terms, we were simply defending ourselves, as opposed to the illiterate Medieval Anglo-Saxon Crusaders who wanted to butcher the Muslims. They even sacked Constantinople on 1204.... so much Christians they were.

Although the sacking of Constantinople had positive effects on us. Let alone the victory of Saladin was disastrous for us. (see Cilicia)

Anonymouse
04-22-2006, 04:09 PM
A microbe wouldn't worship your phallus.

Why do you think I would?
Be quiet Persian scum.

Anonymouse
04-22-2006, 04:11 PM
Spurious

The battle of Avarayr was not a Crusade. Stop stamping ahistorical terms, we were simply defending ourselves, as opposed to the illiterate Medieval Anglo-Saxon Crusaders who wanted to butcher the Muslims. They even sacked Constantinople on 1204.... so much Christians they were.

Although the sacking of Constantinople had positive effects on us. Let alone the victory of Saladin was disastrous for us. (see Cilicia)

Oh the poor Muslims! Woe is they!

Enough of this Marxist tripe. These Moslems who you see as the poor perrenial victims are not so. Why don't you go live in Saudi Arabia and we will see just how poor and tolerant they are toward your atheistic type.

Կարմիր Բ
04-22-2006, 06:02 PM
Oh the poor Muslims! Woe is they!

Enough of this Marxist tripe. These Moslems who you see as the poor perrenial victims are not so. Why don't you go live in Saudi Arabia and we will see just how poor and tolerant they are toward your atheistic type.

Exactly how did you came into the conclusion that I feel empathy for the muslims just because they are muslims ?

Your intolerance signifies that you and the muslims have much more to share than I have.

Anonymouse
04-22-2006, 06:24 PM
Exactly how did you came into the conclusion that I feel empathy for the muslims just because they are muslims ?

Your intolerance signifies that you and the muslims have much more to share than I have.

Intolernce is natural to man. If you think you are going to insult me by stating I am intolerant, you have a lot to learn young man.

parthiapride
04-22-2006, 06:32 PM
Intolernce is natural to man. If you think you are going to insult me by stating I am intolerant, you have a lot to learn young man.


Ahem...young man?

You're barely 3 years older.

:rolleyes:

Կարմիր Բ
04-22-2006, 06:43 PM
Intolernce is natural to man. If you think you are going to insult me by stating I am intolerant, you have a lot to learn young man.

That is only your opinion.

Anonymouse
04-22-2006, 06:50 PM
That is only your opinion.

That is only your opinion.

Կարմիր Բ
04-22-2006, 07:17 PM
Copymouse.

Armenian
04-22-2006, 10:06 PM
That is only your opinion.

Its my opinion as well, Bolshevik.

A "Crusade" can be both offensive and defensive. Vardan Mamikonian's rebellion was a Crusade, a struggle in defense of Christianity. However, you would need a brain to realize this.

Կարմիր Բ
04-22-2006, 10:19 PM
I see the xxxx-up fairy has visited us again.

parthiapride
04-22-2006, 10:36 PM
Yeah.

I rather would have been Parthian.

Damn it.
:(

Anonymouse
04-22-2006, 10:54 PM
I see the xxxx-up fairy has visited us again.

Unfortunately, this poison pill of an ideology you adhere too is what has contributed to Armenia's stagnation currently. For some 70 years of socialism, the problems it creates are not fixed overnight and certainly not in a span of a decade.

Կարմիր Բ
04-22-2006, 11:26 PM
The brain was optional for you.

Armenian
02-15-2007, 12:22 PM
Yekeq dartsyal hishenq mer nahatakvac herosner@ hinadareyan:

Lucin
02-16-2007, 01:57 AM
This is what we would sing at school:

Վարդանն է քաջ զորավար
Սուրը ձեռքին ոսկեվառ
Կանչում է իր քաջերին
Ջառդենք գլուխ Յազկերտին...

Էլիա
03-24-2007, 11:09 PM
^Լուիսն, մենք այդ երգը կ'երգենք իմ հայերէն դպրոցիս մէջ: Շատ լաւ երգ է...

(Lucin, we sing that song in my Armenian school. It's a very good song...)

MrLeftyHye
03-25-2007, 12:01 AM
^Լուիսն, մենք այդ երգը կ'երգեմ իմ հայերէն դպրոցիս մէջ: Շատ լաւ երգ է...

(Lucin, we sing that song in my my Armenian school. It's a very good song...)

Thats a classic song.

Էլիա
03-25-2007, 12:05 AM
^lol, I thought you couldn't read Armenian? :)

Navid
05-01-2007, 06:15 PM
Be quiet Persian scum.

Interestingly and sadly, the brillinat and informative article by the "Armenian",
has ended up in nonesense comments by others. I'm not even sure that the Parthiapride guy is a Persian. Usually, Persians like and respect the Armenians
and their history.

If a person who has an agenda (paid by Ankara), makes an undecent comment, one should not reply to it and fall in the trap. Instead of commemorating and sharing the interesting article by the "Armenian" blogger, we have ended up talking about nonesense and make fun at the Persians.

Armenia has survived centuries of annihilations, wars, conquests and imperial ambitions by other powers like Russia, Turkey, etc... Yet, Armenians have managed to survive and hang on to their beautiful culture and language. Obviously, as stated by the "Armenian" guy, Christianity have played a major role in safeguarding the Armenian identity. And Armenians should be proud of themselves.

karoaper
05-01-2007, 07:10 PM
Interestingly and sadly, the brillinat and informative article by the "Armenian",
has ended up in nonesense comments by others. I'm not even sure that the Parthiapride guy is a Persian. Usually, Persians like and respect the Armenians
and their history.

If a person who has an agenda (paid by Ankara), makes an undecent comment, one should not reply to it and fall in the trap. Instead of commemorating and sharing the interesting article by the "Armenian" blogger, we have ended up talking about nonesense and make fun at the Persians.

Armenia has survived centuries of annihilations, wars, conquests and imperial ambitions by other powers like Russia, Turkey, etc... Yet, Armenians have managed to survive and hang on to their beautiful culture and language. Obviously, as stated by the "Armenian" guy, Christianity have played a major role in safeguarding the Armenian identity. And Armenians should be proud of themselves.

Well said! As far as parthiapride, that little shyster is a self-hating so-called Armenian, not because he respects Parthia btw.