Armenism-Aryanism - a book every Armenian must read !

[ravinger]

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Dear brothers and sisters,
Please, visit the following link to get a chance to read Armenism-Aryanism (http://www.geocities.com/armenism) online.
This book is 'must read' for every Armenian. It is an interesting historical exploration of the Armenian roots.

I am also asking for your help with getting as many Armenians as possible to be aware of this book and let them have a chance to read it.

I will inform you when a PDF version of this book will be available for download.

If somebody can get this book professionally translated to English, please do it for the rest of those who would like to read this book, but can't read Armenian.
You will do a great deal of support for whole Armenian Nation.

[Virgil]

Ravinger, don't even bother. Thanks to xxxs the first thing people associate Aryans with is Hitler and third riech.

You know whats funny? Turkey used the Muslim Crescent as a "symbol", now, are we suppose to assume that, like the swastika, this symbol should be banned? NO, of course not, that symbol does not belong solely to Turks, which is why the Swastika and any other historically Aryan symbol do not belong to Germans. Hell, the word Aryan came from India, which is why the entire notion of looking down on our Aryan roots because of the actions of Hitler is a bit premature.

If anything, David's should have been banned due to the autrocities commited by Israel. Again, its the Tukish and xxxish double standard at work. Turks can proudly put the Muslim crescent on their flag, when in fact that crescent was one of the symbols of the Ottoman Empire, but yet anything Aryan is ignored because 6 million xxxs died. Now, really think about how stupid the logic is, just because 4 million more xxxs died then Armenians we must assume that xxxs have "special rights" or somthing. IF THE SWASTIKA can be banned, I, as a Armenian, want the Muslim crescent to be socially banned as well.

[Anonymouse]

Is it in Western Armenian? No wonder I am slower than usual. Of course, I also don't have my glasses.

[Armenian]

"The ethereal significance of the Swastika was most regrettably corrupted by the Nazi party during the Second World War, probably for eternity. Armenia is probably the only nation today where the symbol of eternity, the direct descendent of the Swastika, is a prominent and integral part of artistic expression and spiritual symbolism. It would not be a stretch of the imagination to claim that the Swastika is the oldest sacred symbol on earth and, moreover, a symbol that represents the very genesis of human cultural development. Accordingly, the Swastika belongs to all the nations, not just to those of Indo-European heritage. It is a symbol profound in its antiquity, beauty and allegorical significance. It transports us into the psyche early man and takes us to the beginnings of human existence. It is a sacred symbol our primordial ancestors used to convey their awe and admiration of God’s creation"

[ravinger]

Virgil,
Ok, I might agree with you on some points, but what you suggest?
To hide your history and be afraid and kiss xxxs asses?
Remember, if you afraid, the dog will feel adrenalin in you and bite you.
I am not planning to live in fear and shy of my national symbolics.
And I don't care what Nazi's did in regard to something that is universal.
Don't get offended, that's not my intention. Just get my point right.

[HyeJinx1984]

I'm assuming your avatar is this "decendant of the swastika"?

[ravinger]

It is one of the ancient Armenian symbols.
In Soviet times, for example, this symbol was printed on Armenian Cognac label.
If you want to call it "decendant of the swastika", it's your right to do so.
But I agree with you that swastika can be imbedded into unlimited amount of armaments and symbols.
This is how it is, every Aryan nation has its own version of swastika.

[HyeJinx1984]

What is that particular symbol *points to avatar* called and mean?

[Virgil]

Virgil,
Ok, I might agree with you on some points, but what you suggest?
To hide your history and be afraid and kiss xxxs asses?
Remember, if you afraid, the dog will feel adrenalin in you and bite you.
I am not planning to live in fear and shy of my national symbolics.
And I don't care what Nazi's did in regard to something that is universal.
Don't get offended, that's not my intention. Just get my point right.

NO....I agree with you and your approach to our history. I agree with what you are doing and support it. My point was that if xxxs are going to ban the Swastika then, equally, they should ban the Muslim Crescent. There is no consistency when it boils down to xxxish and Turkish affairs. xxxs have made anything Aryan evil, but yet make Turks look like a saint. The Muslim crescent on the Turkish flag is no different then the Swastika on the German flag, thus, since xxxs feel that "it is ok" I would like to extend the same respect to history relating to Aryans. If it is ok for Israel to use David's star in the name of progession then I would like the same the respect extended to Swastika. :)

[garegin]

the brooklyn baseball team had swastika prior to the WWII. go figure :rolleyes:

[ravinger]

HyeJinx1984,
It could be called different names throughout the centuries. :confused:
I would call it a 'sun weal' and it could mean essence of the sun. :rolleyes:

Virgil,
You got me with you on your point. :wave:

[bell-the-cat]

It is one of the ancient Armenian symbols.

..And the symbol of His Shadow (may it pass over us). :) :) :laugh:

Were any of the scriptwriters of "Lexx" Armenian, I wonder?

[bell-the-cat]

And "Monkey" also has it on his belt. (That's enough mentioning of obscure cult TV progams, I think :) ).

[Anonymouse]

HyeJinx1984,
It could be called different names throughout the centuries. :confused:
I would call it a 'sun weal' and it could mean essence of the sun. :rolleyes:

Virgil,
You got me with you on your point. :wave:

The original swastika was right handed which in esoteric terms means light and creative, the positive, the light, good luck. Hitler turned it around, representing it in the negative, the dark, like the yin and yang, opposite forces on the spectrum.

[garegin]

yes ur right. but thats another issue, because rotating symbols sometimes is the same transformation. anyway the other day i saw that one of the old armenian letter was the swastika. hitler didnt turn it around. the ny baseball team had the swastika in the same direction and position. and all this adds up to the mystery.

[garegin]

btw, can u give a picture of the "original" swastika?

[IvyLipstick]

Hey folks allow me to link and logically interpret and sum up the facts with me here. Observe this as follows by placing the two and two together with me:

The earliest depictions of the swastika found in Armenia, date back to the Neolithic Period of human cultural evolution (aprox. 7000-5000 B.C.E.) Very often, the swastika is symbolized in the form of the solar disk, commonly found in the stone carvings of the Armenian Plateau, Iranian Plateau and ancient civilizations of Anatolia and Mesoamerica.

Looking back through history the meaning of the word swastika is found in several languages. The Sanskrit root of the word swastika is svar, which means brilliance, illumination or shining. The closest contemporary equivalent to the word is found in the Russian language, where the word svet means light.

In the Armenian language, the second portion of the word swastika--the ast, also referred as AST--means power. This is also the root of the Armenian word Astvats, which means God. Thus, the word Astvats is translated as "all powerful" or "giver of power/s." In this context would refer to physical and spiritual health, clarity of mind or perhaps even salvation.
Thus our examination of the Sanskrit roots of the word brings us to the two archaic meanings of the words svar, (meaning brilliant or shinning) and asti meaning powerful or god. And so we get the meaning of the word swastika, which is: all powerful/shining God.

In ancient times, References such as, "all powerful" or "brilliant" were assigned to the many gods of polytheistic religions. Later these descriptions moved into the context of many current, established, monotheistic religions.

In the past when kings acquired their royal throne, they were also referred to as the 'shinning one.' This also allowed them to claim their divine right to rule over their dominions acquired "from the god's themselves."

The sun, our only source of light, has been symbolized by the swastika because in ancient times, many people, seeing the sun as a life giver considered a God itself.

As many other peoples world wide, the "Armenids" of the Armenian Highland and Mesopotamia had been referred to as: "the children of the light".

This concept is found within the essence of the word "Ar-men,” where "Ar" is the name of the ancient Armenian sun god known as (referred to as Ra or Ra-Amon by ancient Egyptians). In addition, the word "men" theoretically would stand for the people or worshippers of the sun god, thus we get "Ar-men" and "Ar-men-ia." The ending of the word Armenia, the 'ia' is said to theoretically stand for the location, thus we get Armenia, meaning "the land of the sun-worshippers" or "the land of the children of light".

[IvyLipstick]

Now bare with me here. If the original Aryans (keeping what I said earlier above in our minds) were said to have been of that monotheistic religion of being sun worshippers which as stated earlier:

"Around the year 2000 BC, originating in the Caucasus, a sun worshipping Indo-European tribe calling themselves Aryans, using a language known as Sanskrit, invaded central Asia and occupied territory as far as the north of India. These invaders were what became known as the original Aryans."

Would that not mean that Armenians= the original Aryans?

[IvyLipstick]

The symbol of the swastika, most commonly associated with the WWII era and the Nazi regime, has a much deeper history and has fascinated people throughout history by its complex, mystical meanings and codes. The understanding of these codes has been thought to be expressed through its symbol. The swastika has been widely used in various cultural symbolisms of religious and astronomical nature throughout the Armenian Highland, Mesopotamia, Africa, China, India and Mesoamerica.
After careful examination of the Armenian alphabet, one would find that half a dozen of its letters are nothing more than modified versions of the famous swastika symbol. Armenian letters such as: Ke, Kea, Xe, Pe, Fe, and Ea have their origins in the ancient proto-Armenian petroglyph writings found in the Armenian Highland.

The earliest depictions of the swastika found in Armenia, date back to the Neolithic Period of human cultural evolution (aprox. 7000-5000 B.C.E.) Very often, the swastika is symbolized in the form of the solar disk, commonly found in the stone carvings of the Armenian Plateau, Iranian Plateau and ancient civilizations of Anatolia and Mesoamerica.